After over a year and a half on ‘pause’, I’m back at the Fat Joy podcast mic bringing you a capsule collection of conversations with fat creatives who have turned their ideas into tangible offerings in the world…which is what Creation Lab does. I hope you have as much fun listening as I did making it! You can watch here or on YouTube and listen anywhere you get your podcasts.
Amanda Sabater (she/her) joins me on the Fat Joy podcast’s Creation Lab Capsule Collection. In this conversation, we explore the spiritual side of creativity — the inner nudges, intuitions, and moments of mystery that shape how ideas arrive. What begins as a chat about making art becomes a deeper reflection on what happens when creativity feels less like a task and more like a relationship.
We discuss the tension many of us feel:
How do we stay connected to our creative selves when life feels heavy?
How do we trust the impulses that feel both exciting and uncertain?
Together, we talk about the practices that help us tune in — rest, ritual, movement, and simply paying attention — and the barriers that make it hard to hear our own inner wisdom. Throughout, there’s an invitation to see creativity as a sacred companion that keeps reaching toward us, even when we’ve gone quiet.
If you’ve ever sensed that your creative life is also a spiritual life, this episode will feel like coming home to yourself.
To learn more about how you can tap into your creativity and take an idea from napkin scribble to something alive in the world, check out the Fat Joy Creation Lab. Applications close February 20!
Josephine “Amanda” Sabater is an award-winning producer, artist, and trauma doula who births heart-centered moments that nurture self-trust. A mixed-race creator in a bigger body, she shapes decolonized, fat-liberatory experiences that honor and heal lineage wounds. Her creative collaborations include NAAFA, BronxArtSpace, the U.S. State Department, Condé Nast, Teen Vogue, NYU, and Eventbrite.
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